Call brief · prepared for Anna Semple

Fraunhofer UK Research Ltd

The UK's only Fraunhofer institute — the Centre for Applied Photonics, Glasgow. ~55 people, not-for-profit, Great Place to Work-certified. Photonics and quantum PhDs. And their HR lead booked us herself, inbound.

When

Tue 15 Sep · 10:30–11:00

Who

Kelly Niven
HR Manager, MCIPD

Email

kelly.niven@fraunhofer.co.uk
confirm exact address from the invite

Link

In the Cal.com invite
Employer Enquiry · round-robin → Anna

01 The one thing to know

Kelly is not a gatekeeper to get past. She is the people-and-culture decision-maker — and her whole professional identity is winning "best workplace" awards.

Why it matters

She books these calls herself, looking for an edge

She personally led Fraunhofer UK's 2025 Great Place to Work campaign — four national awards and 92% employee engagement. She styles herself an "HR Change Leader — culture, growth and innovation."

So this is a culture and retention conversation, not a finance one. Halo Pay is a childcare benefit wrapped in a retention story — pitch it as the next award-worthy addition to a package she is already proud of. Her language, finished.

Read on her

Senior, commercial, substance-first

MCIPD, 17+ years, ex-Tesco Bank / Heathrow / Lloyds Pharmacy, runs her own culture consultancy on the side. She will expect substance, not a script.

Practical consequence: she is active on LinkedIn (a legitimate warm channel for a post-call connect), but she booked by email — keep follow-up on email. Confirm the exact address on the call.

02 Where she sits

Kelly is both the champion and the buyer. Finance and the Exec Director co-sign.

NameRoleWhy they matter to us
Kelly NivenHR Manager / HR Business Partner (MCIPD)Our caller — the champion and likely buyer. Sole/lead HR person; owns the benefits offer. At Fraunhofer since Jan 2023.
Iona DottHead of Finance & Administration (CA)The scrutiny. Qualified accountant — the funding mechanics (how the employer's own saving largely pays for the programme) must be watertight for her. Build the finance leave-behind for this reader.
Simon AndrewsExecutive Director (CEng, CPhys)The formal yes. CEO-equivalent, ultimate budget authority. Gets looped in for sign-off, not the first call.
Prof Loyd McKnightHead of Centre, CAP (2025)Scientific leadership — the population of high-value staff being retained.
Dr John-Mark HopkinsDeputy Head of CentreScientific leadership.
Do this on the call

Map the sign-off path — out loud

Ask directly: "When you add a benefit like this, who signs it off — is that you, or do Iona and Simon need to be in the room?" It confirms Kelly as the buyer, surfaces the finance objection early, and tells us who to arm her to convince internally.

03 The org, in numbers

~55

Average employees, FY2024 (up from 48)

+15%

Headcount growth in one year — expanding

92%

Say it's a great place to work (UK avg 54%)

£734k

Pension spend, FY2024 — benefits-forward

£3.39m

Cash at bank — solvent, grant-funded

2012

Established in Glasgow · company SC419797

Small, not-for-profit, growing

A private company limited by guarantee (not-for-profit RTO, SIC 72190), so net assets and reserves show as £0 — that's normal: grants are carried as deferred income, not retained profit. It's cash-positive, funded by Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft plus UK public research money.

One Glasgow site — Level 5, 99 George Street, at the University of Strathclyde. Every parent we'd serve is in one city.

Why that shape is fine for us

~55 staff is small — and Halo has no minimum headcount. The employer-NI mechanics work exactly the same at 55 as at 5,000.

Better: it's a growing, benefits-forward employer with a young, family-forming STEM workforce and 92% engagement to protect. That's the ideal fit, not the marginal one. (They're a standard NI-paying company, not a charity — so the employer saving that largely funds the programme applies.)

04 What they already give people

A strong package — and, unusually, childcare is not a blank. Handle that carefully.

On the books today

  • Competitive salary; generous pension (the £734k spend backs this up)
  • Generous holidays; enhanced maternity leave
  • "Nursery access" — already listed as a family benefit
  • Great Place to Work-certified; 2025 lists: Development (#34), Wellbeing (#60), Women (#93), Consulting & Professional Services
  • Fair Work First employer; "Opening Up Photonics" D&I commitment
The gap — and the trap

They already say "Nursery access". Ask what it means.

Do not assume childcare is empty space. It's very likely priority/discounted access to a Strathclyde/Glasgow campus nursery, or Tax-Free-Childcare signposting — confirm which.

Neither delivers the income-tax + employee-NI saving on the full nursery bill that a compliant Section 318 workplace nursery does. The gap Halo fills is turning a vague "access" perk into a tax-advantaged, compliant, governed benefit — an upgrade to something she already values.

The precedent to name: their own German colleagues

Fraunhofer's German parent has a strong, well-documented family-friendly culture — on-site nursery (Kita) provision is common across German Fraunhofer institutes.

The line: "Halo Pay lets Fraunhofer UK match the family-friendly childcare culture your German colleagues already have — compliantly, under UK tax law."

05 The hard part

A 55-person, grant-funded not-for-profit with one HR lead and a CA watching every line. The fear is cost and admin.

Expect this

"We're small and grant-funded — no new cost, no new admin"

Budget sensitivity plus admin-load fear is the core risk. Iona Dott (CA) will want the mechanics to be exact, and Kelly is the sole HR person — she can't take on a project.

How to play it

Lead with the funding model, then de-risk the admin

"The programme is largely funded through the savings it generates for the employer, so the net cost to run it is modest — and your people get a real income-tax and NI saving on their nursery bill. We carry the compliance and the admin, not your team."

Then: "You've got one HR manager — so we run the governance and the paperwork. It's built for lean teams." Acknowledge grant-funding once (benefits sit in core/overhead, not project grants), then move on — don't let it become a gate.

06 Who else is in the room

WhoWhat they'd pitchOur line
Bright HorizonsOwn-network nurseries, back-up care, established brand.Their model ties you to their estate and suits large employers. Halo works with the nursery the parent already uses, built for a 55-person org with one HR lead — no minimum, no tie-in.
Enjoy BenefitsChildcare bundled into a generic flex-benefits catalogue.A benefits catalogue is not a compliant, governed Section 318 scheme. HMRC has warned about "pay-and-look-away" workplace-nursery schemes; Halo is the governance layer that keeps it clean — that's the whole product.
Strathclyde / campus nurseryThe incumbent — their current "Nursery access".Campus access is helpful but delivers no tax or employee-NI saving on the fees, and only if the parent uses that one nursery. Halo delivers the tax advantage on any registered nursery, compliant by design.

07 The sector case

Photonics PhDs are the worst people to lose

Fraunhofer UK's staff are specialist photonics and quantum researchers — among the most expensive people in the UK to replace, in a sector already short of skills.

And motherhood is where high-skill STEM employers lose them: over 40% of new mothers in STEM leave full-time work after their first child — roughly double the rate for new fathers (Frontier Economics). Treat the exact figure as indicative.

The line for Kelly

"Losing one photonics researcher to the return-to-work cliff costs you a year of recruitment and lost project delivery. A childcare benefit that makes it financially easier to come back after parental leave is one of the highest-ROI retention levers you have."

And it directly serves her Best Workplaces for Women and for Wellbeing ambitions, and protects the 92% engagement she's already built.

08 How to run the 30 minutes

The agenda that worked last time: intros, a few sharp questions, show the product, drive to a close. Have a purpose — or you're 20 minutes in before you know it.

TimePhaseThe move
0–3Intro & frameWarm intro; one line on what Halo is — "a compliant workplace-nursery childcare benefit — better for parents, and simple for you to run." Then the opener: "how did you come across us?"
3–12DiscoveryRun the five questions below, quickly. The goal is to let Kelly name the "Nursery access" gap herself and size the population of parents. Listen more than you talk.
12–22Show itShort platform walk-through — the parent journey, the Family Circle governance, the audit pack. Tie every screen back to what she just raised. Don't tour features; answer her question with the product.
22–27ReassureThe funding model and Section 318 in one breath — "the programme is largely funded by the savings it generates, so the net cost to run it is modest; we carry the compliance and the admin." Keep the numbers for the Finance leave-behind (Iona).
27–30CloseAgree the follow-up and a second call with Finance/Exec: "when you take this to Iona and Simon, what will they want to see?" Then send the pack the same day.

The five discovery questions (the 3–12 block) — find her reason early, and let her name the gap.

"You already list 'Nursery access' as a benefit — what does that actually give your people today, and where does it fall short?"

Surfaces the incumbent and the gap, in her words, without us assuming childcare is empty.

"How many of your ~55 team have young children, or are heading into parental leave in the next year or two?"

Sizes the population and ties it straight to retention. Gets her counting.

"After four Great Place to Work awards, what do you want the benefits package to be known for next — is 'family-friendly / best for women' on that list?"

Aligns Halo to her own stated ambition. This is the culture-buyer's language.

"When you add a benefit like this, who signs it off — you, or do Iona and Simon need to be in the room?"

Maps the decision path: Finance (Iona Dott, CA) and the Exec Director (Simon Andrews).

"What's your worry here — is it cost, admin load on you as the sole HR lead, or the compliance side?"

Lets her name the objection so Anna can close the right one instead of guessing.

Send afterwards — same day

Don't

One thing to avoid

Don't let this become a tax pitch. Halo is a compliant platform and governance, not an adviser — and Kelly buys culture and retention, not tax mechanics. Keep the tax detail in the leave-behind for Finance; keep the live conversation about people.

09 How they found us — and the hole it exposes

What we know

Kelly booked the Employer Enquiry event on Cal.com — the round-robin the website's "Book a call" points at. It landed on Anna.

No prior contact: no outreach, no warm intro. Cold, self-served inbound.

Worth fixing

We can't say what produced her

The booking arrives with no referrer, no UTM, no campaign. Same blind spot as Walker Morris and MML Capital — inbound employer bookings we can't attribute.

Ask her early: "Out of interest, how did you come across Halo?" Her answer — LinkedIn? a peer HR network? a Great Place to Work event? a Strathclyde connection? — tells us the channel that's actually converting, and her prior awareness going in.

10 Sources

Swept with Exa, Firecrawl and Parallel on 25 Aug 2026, plus the statutory register (Companies House API).

Fraunhofer UK Research Ltd — Companies House SC419797 · Accounts to 31 Dec 2024 — filing history · Fraunhofer CAP — Organisation / Our People · Fraunhofer CAP — Careers & benefits · Kelly Niven — LinkedIn · Simon Andrews — LinkedIn · Great Place to Work UK — Fraunhofer UK Research · New Head of CAP (Prof Loyd McKnight) — Strathclyde · Fraunhofer as an employer (family-friendly culture) · Frontier Economics — gender equality in STEM